All Sides Of The Story

Official Canvas Response:

As you are aware, in early March 2008, ownership of The Canvas Messageboard changed hands.

Over the past 24 hours, Casey and/or Koko were on TC claiming that TC had been "stolen" from them.

This post is to advise all our chatters, posters and lurkers as to how the change in ownership happened.

Since Brooke and I, together with the fan fic archivers, were given our positions at TC several years ago, we have always given our posters, chatters and lurkers the opportunity to contact Casey and Koko directly with their concerns, questions, etc. Many posters, including us, have been unable to contact either Casey or Koko via PM or email.

This was not always unusual because Casey and Koko tended to take a very hands off approach to running this board. Months would go by without any interaction from them. We had learned to move forward with the day-to-day operation and fun of this board with limited/no input from them.

In December 2007, we were contacted Yuku advising that they had been contacted by several TC posters about the posters' inability to contact the Casey and/or Koko with questions or concerns. Yuku asked if we had been in contact with Casey or Koko in recent months -- we stated that we had not been contacted recently. Yuku then advised us that they planned to contact Casey and/or Koko with a deadline of 30 days to respond.

Casey and/or Koko failed to respond to Yuku's email and the board was considered abandoned.

Yuku specifically stated to us:

We haven't heard from the administrators, and the emails to some of them bounced, so we need to do a transfer of ownership.

Yuku stated that the board would be shut down in 14 days or two weeks if they did not transfer ownership.

We assumed ownership of the board.

There was no plotting done to overtake the board. There was and is nothing secretive about this situation. Please feel free to contact Yuku if you wish to ask more questions.

We have nothing to hide.

As always, if you have questions, you know where to find us...

Amy & Brooke

1. I contacted the Yuku Admins after experiencing an issue with the board. It was not about "taking over" the board, it was a personal issue I was having with the site.

2. The Yuku Admins advised me to discuss the issue with the TC Admins, as they would be able to resolve the issue.

3. I told the Yuku Admins that the TC Admins weren't available, and was there something else that could be done to help me?

4. The Yuku Admins said they would try contacting the TC Admins for me.

5. Weeks went by with no resolution to my issue, nor had I heard from anybody from Yuku. Then one day, I received a reply email from the Yuku Admins stating that they had tried to contact the TC Admins via every available method [ multiple email addresses, PMs, etc. ] and that they had been unable to contact anybody.

6. TC was then deemed "Abandoned."

7. Because the board needed a new owner appointed to keep the board "alive," I was given the position because I was one of the Mods at the time.

And there you have it. There was no plot to ever take over TC. Circumstances arose, and Amy and I did what we did to ensure TC would continue to exist. Good decision, bad decision or otherwise, there you have it.

I just wanted to clear up some misconceptions, put a timeline out there from Koko and I. I'd do it at the Canvas but you know...I lost err "gifted" my keys.

- The Canvas moved to Yuku with no issues.

- Koko's last post was in February of 2008.

- Koko was in contact with Jeweltones, via her personal email not too long ago this year. Koko explained she'd be MIA awhile for family reasons.

- We were honest we didn't have time for the day to day activities, it was why we finally got moderators after years and years of going at it alone.

- I visited the board on a fairly daily bases, mostly the spoiler thread....OKAY I only had the spoiler thread bookmarked. The Spoiler Only one too....(Woops greatest contribution EVER to The Canvas! ) But I did browse when time permitted.

- We didn't just discover the turnover, I've know since March 16. A few days after the announcement. (March 13 or 14 I believe)

- Here comes the part Koko hates....Never in a million years did I think there would be an abandonment clause, I thought Koko had "gifted" it to them, cause truthfully my new job is my life and I barely even have time to talk to the coolest person I know, so while I was hurt and shocked at that time, how else could they had gotten control right?

- I'll admit it, I couldn't deal with it. We were both pretty clear the half a dozen times that Brooke asked for the board, that we rather destroy it than give it away. I was pissed. I fucked up by not saying anything to Koko. I was afraid I'd say something I'd regret. And as saddened as I was that the Canvas was gone. Yeah I was sad, I was surprised just how sad I felt given that it rarely gave me any pleasure as of late. And by late I mean YEARS, it was still ours, and I was quite sad. Yet if I'd have to choose, the Canvas over my Koko, I'd let that bitch burn to the ground. I'd throw kindle. So I let it be……

- Koko having come home from a business trip yesterday, Sunday, text message me, wondering WTF was I thinking giving the board to Brooke et,al. Shockage ALL around. Reaction Instant.

How we believe it happened?

Candy was the one who originally created the board in 2001. It was the first time we'd ever used Ezboard, and Candy created the user canvasliason and then the community. We all then created at the local accounts with our names, candy, casey and koko. It's when we met a lot of you then, we posted ALL the time. Eventually the whole Ezboard global user became an issue and we created CANVAS only accounts, like Canvas Admin, Canvas Publisher etc, and other personal accounts because seriously who wants to post as the Canvas Admin on an OC board?

We never used canvasliason , never even gave it another thought. Over the seven years we've changed emails, purchased our own domains.....we reset, made changes, keep on top of our personal and Canvas accounts...except one. The main one apparently. When you read the community profile, canvasliason was the Owner and we were the Administrators. If Yuka even tried to make contact, by Brooke's prodding I'm sure, we believe canvasliason is the profile they would have contacted and truth be told, we have no clue on where those emails would go. But they didn't come to us personally.

Even if they went through "legal" loopholes with Yuku, at the end of the day, Brooke and Amy NEVER contacted us at our personal emails that we provided. They never called using the cell phone numbers we left with them to ask us our feelings on this matter.

Brooke & Amy continued to use their email addresses @thecanvas.tv. Which I still pay for monthly, clearly not abandoned. We still have the domain thecanvas.tv up and running, also not abandoned.

Even after all of this....we have yet to receive an email from Brooke or Amy. But we have no problems getting emails of support from a lot of you here so again. Big....huge...thank yous!

xoxo
Casey

PS: FTR Broke and Amy are only "financially responsible" for the Canvas because they took it from the people who were once "financially responsible" for it!